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Email being sent to junk folder

vonee 13 Nov, 2007
Hi
I have tried to find this on an existing thread but obviously am not looking for the right keywords! I have a form up and running really well but the email results are going to my junk folder. How do I overcome this?
Also, I would like the form to be presented in a template so that when it prints out it looks like a form, not a data dump! Any thoughts on how this works?
Look forward to your help as I love this component and I am happy to pay for it if I can get the thing cruising!
GreyHead 13 Nov, 2007
Hi vonee,

The question to ask is why the emails are going to your junk folder? Are you using a 'real' From address or a generic one like [email]'admin@example.com[/email].? Do you have the From address you are using in your address book? Is it white-listed at your ISP?

These are all basic e-mail management questions - nothing really to do with ChronoForms which seems to be doing it's job.

To format the results email you can create a template using html (and php if you like). See the 'Email template' field on the 'Form Code' tab.

Bob
vonee 13 Nov, 2007
Hi Bob
I am using a real email address - and it is my one for testing purposes and all emails to me come through just fine. It's a bit wierd isn't it? I wondered if it was because it was a joomla based email form/
GreyHead 13 Nov, 2007
Hi vonee,

OK, let's have a think. Please will you open up the source of one of the emails and post the headers here (blank out any private material) - or email as an attachment to info at greyhead.net. And please turn on Debug in the General tab (and temporarily remove any redirect url from the Form URLs tab) then submit the form and copy and paste the debug info here.

Thanks

Bob<br><br>Post edited by: GreyHead, at: 2007/11/13 09:10
vonee 13 Nov, 2007
_POST: Array ( [Property_Address] => 33 Smith Street [Date_Required] => 1/11/2007 [Tenancy_To] => [Applicant_Title] => Ms [Applicant_First_Name] => Tooth [Applicant_Middle_Name] => Sparkle [Applicant_Surname] => Fairy [Applicant_Contact_Phone] => 1111 [Applicant_Mobile] => 1111 [No_of_Children] => nil [Children_Age] => n/a [Pets] => 1 pet mouse [Smoking] => Non-Smoker [ID] => 1111 [Car_Reg] => abc123 [DOB] => 10.05.1955 [Email] => [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email] [Spouse_Title] => Mr [Spouse_Full_Name] => n/a [Spouse_DOB] => n/a [Spouse_ID] => n/a [Kin_Name] => Top Gum [Kin_Relationship] => Mother [Kin_Address] => Tinseltown [Kin_Home_Phone] => 11111 [Kin_Business_Phone] => 324567 [Occupation] => Tooth Fairy [Employer] => Top Gum [Occupation_Address] => Tinseltown [Student] => No [Institution] => n/a [Course] => n/a [Period_of_Employment] => n/a [Occupation_Busines_Phone] => n/a [Spouse_Occupation] => n/a [Spouse_Employer] => n/a [Spouse_Occupation_Address] => n/a [Spouse_Student] => No [Spouse_Institution] => n/a [Spouse_Course] => n/a [Spouse_Period_of_Employment] => n/a [Spouse_Business_Phone] => 111111 [Present_Address] => 11 Sparkly St [Present_Address_Period_of_Occupancy] => 2 years [Present_Address_Rent_Paid] => $100 pw [Present_Address_Agent_or_Owner] => Bad Wolf Realty [Present_Address_Agent_Business_Phone] => 456789 [Present_Address_Reason_For_leaving] => Property sold [Previous_Address] => n/a [Previous_Address_Period_of_Occupancy] => n/a [Previous_Address_Rent_Paid] => n/a [Previous_Address_Agent_or_Owner] => n/a [Previous_Address_Agent_Business_Phone] => n/a [Previous_Address_Reason_For_Leaving] => n/a [Other_Intended_Occupants_1] => nil [Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_1] => n/a [Other_Intended_Occupants_2] => n/a [Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_2] => n/a [Referee_1] => santa [Referee_1_Phone] => 33333 [Referee_2] => rudolph [Referee_2_Phone] => 555555 [Emergency_Contact] => Top Gum [Emergency_Contact_Phone] => 55555 [Emergency_Contact_Mobile] => 666666 [submit] => I CONFIRM THE FOREGOING IS CORRECT AND SUBMIT APPLICATION )
Case 1: Use table layout
E-mail: 'Yes' custom
Email sent
E-mail message
From: admin [helen@helenharm.com]
To: [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]
Subject: Tenancy Application

Property_Address 33 Smith Street
Date_Required 1/11/2007
Tenancy_To
Applicant_Title Ms
Applicant_First_Name Tooth
Applicant_Middle_Name Sparkle
Applicant_Surname Fairy
Applicant_Contact_Phone 1111
Applicant_Mobile 1111
No_of_Children nil
Children_Age n/a
Pets 1 pet mouse
Smoking Non-Smoker
ID 1111
Car_Reg abc123
DOB 10.05.1955
Email [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]
Spouse_Title Mr
Spouse_Full_Name n/a
Spouse_DOB n/a
Spouse_ID n/a
Kin_Name Top Gum
Kin_Relationship Mother
Kin_Address Tinseltown
Kin_Home_Phone 11111
Kin_Business_Phone 324567
Occupation Tooth Fairy
Employer Top Gum
Occupation_Address Tinseltown
Student No
Institution n/a
Course n/a
Period_of_Employment n/a
Occupation_Busines_Phone n/a
Spouse_Occupation n/a
Spouse_Employer n/a
Spouse_Occupation_Address n/a
Spouse_Student No
Spouse_Institution n/a
Spouse_Course n/a
Spouse_Period_of_Employment n/a
Spouse_Business_Phone 111111
Present_Address 11 Sparkly St
Present_Address_Period_of_Occupancy 2 years
Present_Address_Rent_Paid $100 pw
Present_Address_Agent_or_Owner Bad Wolf Realty
Present_Address_Agent_Business_Phone 456789
Present_Address_Reason_For_leaving Property sold
Previous_Address n/a
Previous_Address_Period_of_Occupancy n/a
Previous_Address_Rent_Paid n/a
Previous_Address_Agent_or_Owner n/a
Previous_Address_Agent_Business_Phone n/a
Previous_Address_Reason_For_Leaving n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_1 nil
Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_1 n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_2 n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_2 n/a
Referee_1 santa
Referee_1_Phone 33333
Referee_2 rudolph
Referee_2_Phone 555555
Emergency_Contact Top Gum
Emergency_Contact_Phone 55555
Emergency_Contact_Mobile 666666
submit I CONFIRM THE FOREGOING IS CORRECT AND SUBMIT APPLICATION


Submitted by 121.45.233.32
And here is the email that came through to junk:
Property_Address 33 Smith Street
Date_Required 1/11/2007
Tenancy_To
Applicant_Title Ms
Applicant_First_Name Tooth
Applicant_Middle_Name Sparkle
Applicant_Surname Fairy
Applicant_Contact_Phone 1111
Applicant_Mobile 1111
No_of_Children nil
Children_Age n/a
Pets 1 pet mouse
Smoking Non-Smoker
ID 1111
Car_Reg abc123
DOB 10.05.1955
Email [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]
Spouse_Title Mr
Spouse_Full_Name n/a
Spouse_DOB n/a
Spouse_ID n/a
Kin_Name Top Gum
Kin_Relationship Mother
Kin_Address Tinseltown
Kin_Home_Phone 11111
Kin_Business_Phone 324567
Occupation Tooth Fairy
Employer Top Gum
Occupation_Address Tinseltown
Student No
Institution n/a
Course n/a
Period_of_Employment n/a
Occupation_Busines_Phone n/a
Spouse_Occupation n/a
Spouse_Employer n/a
Spouse_Occupation_Address n/a
Spouse_Student No
Spouse_Institution n/a
Spouse_Course n/a
Spouse_Period_of_Employment n/a
Spouse_Business_Phone 111111
Present_Address 11 Sparkly St
Present_Address_Period_of_Occupancy 2 years
Present_Address_Rent_Paid $100 pw
Present_Address_Agent_or_Owner Bad Wolf Realty
Present_Address_Agent_Business_Phone 456789
Present_Address_Reason_For_leaving Property sold
Previous_Address n/a
Previous_Address_Period_of_Occupancy n/a
Previous_Address_Rent_Paid n/a
Previous_Address_Agent_or_Owner n/a
Previous_Address_Agent_Business_Phone n/a
Previous_Address_Reason_For_Leaving n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_1 nil
Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_1 n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_2 n/a
Other_Intended_Occupants_Relationship_2 n/a
Referee_1 santa
Referee_1_Phone 33333
Referee_2 rudolph
Referee_2_Phone 555555
Emergency_Contact Top Gum
Emergency_Contact_Phone 55555
Emergency_Contact_Mobile 666666
submit I CONFIRM THE FOREGOING IS CORRECT AND SUBMIT APPLICATION


Submitted by 121.45.233.32
GreyHead 13 Nov, 2007
Hi vonee,

Nothing much in there that looks as though it's going to trip any junk filters unless it's the style of the whole email. It all looks good to me.

Please will you look at the email and see if you can find the headers - usually through 'View Source', or in Outlook it's View | Options. What I'm looking for is something like this
Received: from mail.example.com by FTGate SmartPop;
	13-Nov-2007 08:20:23 +0100
Return-Path: <sheva77@host.owhs3.com>
X-Original-To: user@example.com
Delivered-To: user@looneymail-mx1.g.example.com
Received: from host.owhs3.com (host.owhs3.com [69.16.236.156])
	by looneymail-mx1.g.example.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005FC3C706
	for <user@example.com>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:19:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from sheva77 by host.owhs3.com with local (Exim 4.68)
	(envelope-from <sheva77@host.owhs3.com>«»)
	id 1Irq2n-0003Bh-71
	for bob@example.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:18:45 -0500
To: user@example.com
Subject: New post notification from  ChronoEngine Forums
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:18:45 -0500
From: "Forum at www.chronoengine.com" <webmaster@chronoengine.com>
Message-ID: <63ccdfbb88b4949c32df176e38693bb8@www.chronoengine.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.owhs3.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - example.com
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32105 32002] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - host.owhs3.com
X-Source: /usr/bin/php
X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php 
X-Source-Dir: chronoengine.com:/public_html
X-Text-Classification: inbox
X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=401 
Bob
vonee 14 Nov, 2007
Return-path: <helen@helenharm.com>
Envelope-to: [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]
Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:17:31 +0000
Received: from [66.40.66.242] (helo=mx1.supremebox.com)
by supremecenter23.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
id 1Irq1a-0001eb-L7
for [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:17:31 +0000
Received: from [64.72.112.121] (helo=supremecenter38.com)
by mx1.supremebox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
id 1Irq1R-0005Bi-6z
for [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:17:21 +0000
Received: from root by supremecenter38.com with local (Exim 4.50)
id 1Irq1Y-0003Gr-LT
for [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:17:29 +0000
To: [email]vonee@vonee.com[/email]
Subject: Tenancy Application
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:17:28 +0200
From: admin <helen@helenharm.com>
Reply-to: admin <janet@helenharm.com>
Message-ID: <a6edb3f75937abc754bf2a3bc9ba5ccc@helenharm.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Sender-uid: 36012
X-Report-Abuse-To: This header is automaticly added by supremecenter38.com.
If you consider this mail as a spam, please send report to [email]spamreport@propersupport.com[/email],
including this message with all of its headers!


Do you think this means it is a problem with my incoming mail server?
regards
Vonee
GreyHead 14 Nov, 2007
Hi vonee,

Thanks for the headers, they look completely normal.

I don't see why these should be going to junk. However, something is triggering a junk filter at your incoming mail server.

A couple of things to try: 1) add [email]helen@helenharm.com[/email] and [email]janet@helenharm.com[/email] to your address list and to any email whitelist you have; 2) change the From and Reply To names from 'Admin' to 'Helen' and 'Janet'.

Bob
vonee 15 Nov, 2007
Thanks Bob I will give that a go!
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