Google noCaptcha not validating CF5.017

form is here: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/ask-question
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in form setup:
on load: added Load Google noCapcha before render html - entered in valid site key
on submit: added Check Google noCapcha - entered in valid secret, added event loop in on fail
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designer:
adavanced: add recaptcha, moved above submit
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site: joomla 3.8.12 / php 7.1
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we are using the same site key and secret successfully on another component in the site
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form fails validation everytime - what am i missing?

Hi John,
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Everything on the front-end looks OK. Please double check the secret key make sure that there are no stray spaces.
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If that isn't the problem please take a backup copy and post it here so that we can take a closer look.
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Bob

I copy/pasted both site key / secret from the joomla plugin, which is currently working. [file=11014]CFV5_FormsBackup_ON_https___armedcitizensnetwork.org_27_Sep_2018_08_02_54.cf5bak[/file]

<div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-custom"><div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-custom"><h2>Ask a Question</h2></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-name"><label for="name" class="control-label gcore-label-left">Your Name</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-name"><input name="name" id="name" value="" placeholder="" class="validate[&#039;required&#039;] form-control A" title="" style="" data-inputmask="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="text" /></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-email"><label for="email" class="control-label gcore-label-left">Email Address</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-email"><input name="email" id="email" value="" placeholder="" class="validate[&#039;required&#039;,&#039;email&#039;] form-control A" title="" style="" data-inputmask="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="text" /></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-subject"><label for="subject" class="control-label gcore-label-left">Subject</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-subject"><input name="subject" id="subject" value="" placeholder="" class="validate[&#039;required&#039;] form-control A" title="" style="" data-inputmask="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="text" /></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-message"><label for="message" class="control-label gcore-label-left">Message</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-message"><textarea name="message" id="message" placeholder="" rows="10" cols="40" class="validate[&#039;required&#039;] form-control A" title="" style="" data-wysiwyg="0" data-load-state="" data-tooltip=""></textarea></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-referal"><label for="referal" class="control-label gcore-label-left gcore-label-checkbox">How did you learn about the Network?</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-referal"><div class="gcore-single-column" id="fclmn"><div class="gcore-radio-item" id="fitem"><input name="Referal" id="referal" value="internet" class="A" title="" style="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="radio" />
<label class="control-label gcore-label-checkbox" for="referal">The Internet</label></div>
<div class="gcore-radio-item" id="fitem1"><input name="Referal" id="referal1" value="magazine" class="A" title="" style="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="radio" />
<label class="control-label gcore-label-checkbox" for="referal1">Gun Magazine</label></div>
<div class="gcore-radio-item" id="fitem2"><input name="Referal" id="referal2" value="instructor" class="A" title="" style="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="radio" />
<label class="control-label gcore-label-checkbox" for="referal2">Firearms Instructor</label></div>
<div class="gcore-radio-item" id="fitem3"><input name="Referal" id="referal3" value="tv" class="A" title="" style="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="radio" />
<label class="control-label gcore-label-checkbox" for="referal3">TV Program</label></div>
<div class="gcore-radio-item" id="fitem4"><input name="Referal" id="referal4" value="other" class="A" title="" style="" data-load-state="" data-tooltip="" type="radio" />
<label class="control-label gcore-label-checkbox" for="referal4">Other [please specify]</label></div></div></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-other"><div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-other"><input name="other" id="other" value="" placeholder="" class="form-control A" title="" style="" data-inputmask="" data-load-state="hidden" data-tooltip="" type="text" /></div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-recaptcha"><label for="recaptcha" class="control-label gcore-label-left">Are you Human?</label>
<div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-recaptcha">{ReCaptcha}</div></div><div class="form-group gcore-form-row" id="form-row-button12"><div class="gcore-input gcore-display-table" id="fin-button12"><input name="button12" id="button12" type="submit" value="Submit" class="form-control A" style="" data-load-state="" /></div></div>

any ideas on this? capcha for this site is def working correctly on another shopping cart component.....