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Automatic fields not saving to the database in CFv6

Minnie Mouse , October 05 2017
Minnie Mouse
I had V4 installed and a contact form running and it stopped working when i updated joomla to 3.8. so I installed CFv6 and made a new contact form. (there are problems in the backend with the easy configuration so I am using advanced). I matched the fields to the old form hooked the new form to the old database and it works except for: the auto CF_ fields wont save to the database. so no id, no date and no ip address. i ran the debugger and it doesnt show that data passing to the database, just my fields. what i have under override on insert:
created:{date:Y-m-d H:i:s}

do i need the cf_ prefix before these fields?